Drama for the sake of drama.

1 month ago
#28389
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Heavy Bob
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2742 Posts
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February 2016
RP Name
Heavy Bob
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Commissioner
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https://pastebin.com/6vLU52RW

I’ve been notified about this pastebin being posted around to some players that has allegedly been written by an exiled user of this community that I suspect have ulterior motives to write such a post as having a history of inspiring and lobbying for the termination of this community though every means possible.

I’ll try and make this short and quick, much of what is in this post is untrue or the facts have been twisted to make it seem more scandalous than it actually is. Here is my account:

> Jordan was a manager for GGS in early / mid 2018.
> Staff became aware of one instance that was presented by ONE person of messages that were sent via snapchat of an alleged salacious nature.
> At the time, the staff believed there was credible reasoning to remove Jordan from his position as manager.
> This was discussed between myself and higher staff and yes at the time and aided by preacher who we knew to be a police officer.
> Preacher the year before assisted with a similar situation with another user who had done similar things but with multiple persons. This incident was elevated to the police and it came out though preacher using the COPS system though his SGT at the time and corresponded though Newcastle Police that the person in question had a court order and history in relation to this.
> Any time a user has come forward about something of this serious nature has always been instructed to talk to a parent and contact the police immediately.
> The evidence didn’t present itself to suggest that Jordan had intentionally done this as opposed to making a grave mistake.
> At the time, I recall that there an age distance of a few years between the person and that Jordan had only turned 18 if I remember correctly.
> At the time, there was no pattern to suggest anything more was occurring. If such a pattern existed, I may have acted differently.
> Two years did pass since this incident and Jordan joined the staff team again and rose up the ranks to become the manager over a period of a month this year.
> It was the understanding that the previous incident after the fact was of poor judgement, and such a lack of pattern to suggest any concerns at the time.
> It was brought to my attention that Jordan had done the same thing again allegedly with two underage persons on snapchat.
> Upon being given this information, I provided instructions to the two persons related to this to speak with their parents, contact the police and provided them with my own contact details.

For clarity, I’ve attached a part of a conversation I’ve had with one of the persons regarding this. Names and responses have been censored for obvious reasons.




I’ve done everything that I could have to do the right thing in this matter. If I had known the information that has been presented now two years ago, I would have acted differently for sure.

From the time being informed, we took decisive action to remove Jordan from the staff team and to prevent any harassment to Jordan within the community, and told the players that he had stepped down. Behind the scenes, Jordan was removed from staff and exiled from the server and had informed the girls exactly what had occurred.

Since taking the necessary action, several alt accounts have posted Jordans dox. These accounts have been banned for obvious reasons.

In relation to the person who has allegedly written this long post, I think it's very clear the purpose of this post is to undermine the credibility of our server as it's admitted by the author wished it died in the last paragraph.

This person was banned from the community in 2018. This person tried back in 2018 to manipulate myself and g-force into giving him power over the server through generous donations made by him. This manipulative relationship put myself and g-force at odds as he would request things like permanent weapons and be rejected by myself to then would try to supersede my decisions though g-force to the dismay of players.

He would break rules on the server then would send g-force money then demand the removal of his bans. It got so bad that g-force and myself at the time were concerned that if the demands were not met by this person that they’d have the ability to tie GGS to the ground in paypal chargebacks that he’d often infer would occur on teamspeak.

This person has had a long history of aligning himself with persons who were banned from the community for very good reasons, things like doxing, cheating, dosing, harassment, ect. This person has spearheaded two separate attempts to make a competitor to ggs and has used every method available to him to sway discontent within the community by posting statements designed to undermine this community and myself.

It was only last year that the last community that he had been supporting attempted to dmca all the ggs content as a way to terminate our community from being able to allow players. This person would often send me messages and staff that he’d wish to talk but when confronted with all the bullshit would snarky deny any wrongdoing had occurred.

This person has used alt accounts to spread his lies numerous times and wouldn’t surprise me that after this long statement about a community he had been banned for years from would go on to launch another failed startup to capitalise on doubt / negativity he has spread.

If you need anymore evidence to the type of person preacher is, here’s a conversation I had with him last year after our content was dmca’d.



I hope this post gives more context to why I think this pastebin was created.
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1 month ago
#153302
GGS.SX Kaptian
Core
Administrator
1628 Posts
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September 2018
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Russ Rbt
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Superintendent
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I'm not fucked to respond properly and in detail will do in the morning
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1 month ago
#153303
kye
Honorable
1275 Posts
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July 2019
RP Name
Ricardo Saint
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Constable
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Bruh
1 month ago
#153304
ThatWhite
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1121 Posts
Member Since
April 2018
RP Name
Jay Jay
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Not Whitelisted
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98 days, 15 hours, 15 minutes and 52 seconds
Thankyou Russ for your response, when will Heavy Bobs mark come back with a formal marking criteria as well as his end of year school report?
1 month ago
#153305
Jaymate
Exiled
148 Posts
Member Since
November 2017
RP Name
Jimmy Owen
Police Rank
Not Whitelisted
Total Playtime
18 days, 7 hours, 28 minutes and 32 seconds
Censor names but why censoring responses? It's not evidence when you can't see it.

(im not meaning to defend jordan in anyway)
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1 month ago
#153306
? ponjabi
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834 Posts
Member Since
April 2019
RP Name
Oompapia Pablo
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57 days, 15 hours, 54 minutes and 37 seconds
Heavy I see why you scribbled out the name but I dont know dude you've got your friends to change their names before but I trust your part but also Preacher when he talked to us he seemed pretty truthful this is icky as fuck
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1 month ago
#153311
Ian
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1190 Posts
Member Since
November 2017
RP Name
Ian Carter
Police Rank
Superintendent
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1 days, 15 hours, 11 minutes and 0 seconds
I would like to note, this isn't to harm GGS or yourself, only to disprove points in possibility to gain more clarity to the situation.


"> This was discussed between myself and higher staff and yes at the time and aided by preacher who we knew to be a police officer."
This situation was mainly left with at the time Enforcer (myself) and Preacher Syns (respective player/LEO), Preacher had discussed legal repercussions and spoke with Jordan about the situation, ultimately leaving Jordan admitting to his wrong doing. Jordan himself was never forcefully removed from his position, Preacher (a PLAYER) told him to resign from his position and to never repeat/nor show his face again (in which he chose this option).

May I note, G-Force and yourself were aware of the situation but chose minimal amount of involvement or right doing in this situation, so please, don't take the high ground on that.



"> At the time, I recall that there an age distance of a few years between the person and that Jordan had only turned 18 if I remember correctly."
At the time of the incident, the victim was 15 y/o and Jordan being 18 y/o.


"> At the time, there was no pattern to suggest anything more was occurring. If such a pattern existed, I may have acted differently.
> Two years did pass since this incident and Jordan joined the staff team again and rose up the ranks to become the manager over a period of a month this year."
You mention this as a point of justification of allowing a known predator return in a position of power to possibly effect newer community members. Do you not think a heads up (if you were so eager to have him return) to your consumers should have been notified.




These small little changes/lack of judgement has once again possibly traumatised more minors; this being the third time a predator has been on your server.

The first predator was appropriately handled with, may I mention I was a "victim" and the person who reported said behaviour.

Second predator due to reputation and personal relation was dealt with doubt towards the victim and ultimately distancing yourself from the removal of predator;
- therefore allowing said predator to return to the community (doesn't matter how long ago it was) without prior warning to any consumers.




My main argument is purely the fact you willingly allowed a predator (who was proven to know age of first victim) to then return with power and influence to those who are supposed to trust him.

Heavy Bob, you are a good guy, but you need to admit your faults instead of the common excuses and "if"s.
IT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH, ADMIT YOUR FAULTS!
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1 month ago
#153313
Heavy Bob
Owner
2746 Posts
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February 2016
RP Name
Heavy Bob
Police Rank
Commissioner
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37 days, 16 hours, 7 minutes and 50 seconds
Ian,

I went back though the teamspeak logs to confirm who actually removed Jordan, as I suspected, it was me who removed his perms on the 12/9/2018.
I'm pretty sure the manager role at the time could remove its own perms. I'd have to boot up the teamspeak server to test that.

I'm not aware of any conversations that yourself and Preacher had with Jordan in regards to admitting to wrong doing. This was two years ago.
I'm not going to slander anyone by saying they are a 'predator' because of one case of misconduct. The word predator means to prey on 'others' plural which didn't occur as it was one case at the time. As you said, he was 18, the bare minimum to be considered an adult in Australia at the time. The age of consent in Australia is 16 in all states except for SA and TA in which its 17. Allegedly, the person was under this age.

Anyone can see in hindsight that more could have been done given the two new cases.
I acted in the best of my ability given the evidence of the cases.
1 month ago
#153315
Preacher
Exiled
3 Posts
Member Since
July 2020
First of all, hi I'm Preacher (James).
If you are unaware of the Pastebin Heavy Bob is referring to, here: https://pastebin.com/6vLU52RW funny how he didn't want to link the very thing he was 'addressing'.
Before my inevitable ban, I'd like to clarify a few things that Heavy stated in this 'response'.

Firstly Heavy, I hope this post sees you well. How's everything going? Would love to catch up one day for coffee.
Now I don't want to drag personal vendettas and attempts at character assassinations into this post but you have forced my hand. I gotta say there is a lot I like about your response to my statement so lets break it down.

You have not directly attacked my accusation that you indeed are just as responsible as Jordan for this happening. You state that Jordan and the victim from 2018 were of a legal age... buddy I gotta tell ya, an 18 year old sending a 15 year old sexually suggestive messages (we have proof) is NOT legal and if you think it still is then i think someone better get a warrant on your house because that is extremely concerning. That is literally the only 'point' you made out of the first part of your response, the rest is just you making a summary of what happened which by the way is very inaccurate. So to put in perspective, you STILL let actively encouraged a well known child predator become manager (within a month might i add) and start preying upon children who i will not mention names nor leak DMs from those who have spoken to me because i have respect for people's privacy (except your's, i am still in agreement for a warrant).


You know you've proven someone wrong when they feel the need to write literally SEVEN paragraphs about you ^ attempting to discredit you. First of all buster, this aint about me! This is alllll about you! Sure, I don't like what you do and sure, I caused problems in GGS due to the lack of respect I had for its founder. But again, you fail to disprove my points and so when you can't do that you attempt to demonize me in front of your player-base. Its quite pathetic as well, you've lied on so many accounts here which i will now list in the next post: (Character limit hit)
1 month ago
#153316
Preacher
Exiled
3 Posts
Member Since
July 2020
Part Two:

1: I did not try to manipulate you through generous donations, I DID manipulate you through my donations, why? Because you let me, you're a greedy little boy and you couldn't help yourself.

2: The manipulative relationship you allowed to occur did not put you and G-force at odds, it put you at odds. Me and G-force to this day are still good mates IRL and from what i understood at the time, you weren't in charge and were not calling the shots. He was because he was the boss as he could do what he liked and there was not a thing you could do about it, you weren't at the mercy of me, you were at the mercy of G-force because you allowed it to be so.

3. I was given perma weapons by G-force, you had nothing to do with that decision. (I recommend using the P99 and AWP combo, great for cars and quick kills)

4. If i got banned I would pay G-force directly (through friends and family) on paypal. I did not have that much money tied to GGS and so could not really do any damage with a chargeback, I also never inferred or suggested charging back on Teamspeak or any platform. This is simply a false statement. Also aint it funny that you now unban people for monetary gain? lmao

5. I align myself with many people online, many which are have been banned but never in a million years would i align myself with a child predator unlike someone I know.

6. I did spearhead two separate communities to go into competition with GGS, this is true. We also happily clowned on you and GGS as it is our freedom to do so. I never EVER DMCA'd you however, i still don't know what DMCA stands for.

7. Finally, this is the ONLY alt account i have ever created and will ever create.

Also I expect you'll obviously ban me but deleting this comment will further prove my point about you.

- With love always, Preacher
1 month ago
#153317
Preacher
Exiled
3 Posts
Member Since
July 2020
Also just wanna add, if you hate me so much why don't we settle this dispute like gentlemen? How about a boxing match? I can travel up to Newcastle, pay for a ring for an hour, I'll even pay for your gloves and shorts if they have a size big enough. I'd like to think I would win but you have the weight bro so you could definitely give it a shot. I just think it would be healthy for our batman/joker style relationship to have a chance to get some anger out. Just us two bro, in the ring, we can stream it on whatever streaming service you got rejected from or your twitch account. I am deadset happy for a legal and fair boxing match and will pay for everything as I have a real job which can afford it so don't stress bro. What ya say?

If you decline then you admit defeat